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- Item 9236421 14-Jan-91 13:31PST
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- From: HEKSTERB Hekster, Ben
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- To: MACAPP.TECH$ MacApp Technical
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- Item forwarded by SPA.DTS to SPA0144
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- Item forwarded by LANGILL.W to HUNT.B
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- Sub: Re- Potential First Time
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- Attn: MacApp Forum
- SentBy: Ben Hekster
- Date 1/14/91
- Subject Re- Potential First Time Us
- From Ben Hekster
- To MacApp Forum
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- Subject:Re: Potential First Time Use Created:14/01/91 10:51
- In item 2074365, SCHMUCKER1 (Schmucker, Kurt) writes:
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- > My experience, and that of others that I have helped start-up on MacApp
- > is exactly the opposite. MacApp helps you get something up and running
- > quickly. After either the five-day course or the one-day short course, you
- > should be able to get a basic version of your app up and demonstrable in
- less
- > than a two weeks.
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- I can't help but wonder what sort of problems an application written in two
- weeks' time, even by an experienced MacApper, would solve.
-
- > It doesn't solve all your problems, of course, but it gets
- > you some easy quick results, give you a structure for finishing the rest,
- and
- > gives you lots of stuff for free. Most importantly, you never even see some
- > problems (like how to put UNDO into your app) since the MacApp structure
- > gives you a simple framework for so much.
-
- I've been spending the last months learning MacApp and making a start
- writing my first object-oriented application, which uses the Inside-Out
- library. This is just my personal experience/opinon, of course, but I have
- found myself spending an inordinate amount of time modifying the basic
- document-handling behavior—something which I had been led to expect MacApp
- would have freed me from. Not that I ever found implementing
- document-handling so distressing. Another matter altogether, but it seems I
- personally seem not to have the same adversity to coding that appears so
- rampant among better-versed MacAppers than I.
-
- I'm certainly not discounting the real possibility that this is due to
- my inexperience with object-oriented programming, and MacApp in particular.
- But it goes to show the point I'm attempting to make, which is that the
- question whether or not MacApp development is faster or not would seem to
- depend a great deal on to what degree that particular application fits the
- standard MacApp model. (For example, documents being memory-based.)
-
- One other point—obviously, in its aspiration to be all things to all
- programmers, MacApp makes some sacrifices in terms of spacetime(!)-efficiency.
- Views may be a pleasant concept, but frankly I don't need separate coordinate
- systems for all my static text items.
-
- I must say that I am slightly dismayed that this is such a non-issue
- on this forum. I understand that in this age of IIfx computing power,
- performance is now no longer deemed to be of importance. Maintainability
- (i.e., making life easy on the programmer) is the word of the age. But to not
- have seen *any* comparisons whatsoever of MacApp vs. non-MacApp applications,
- frankly, surprises me to some extent. Perhaps this topic had already been
- exhausted.
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- Still ready to be converted (convince me),
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